by johnnyspys
ras2124 wrote:
It took Agricola one year since its original release in Europe, but as you mention it was pretty much unavailable in the US. As soon as it was released here, it took less than a month for it finally make it to number 1.
However, Agricola also had nothing to build upon. Uwe was mostly unknown at that point, only having made Bohnanza so it was pretty much European hype that led to its immediate success here.
This is very different from P:L since people LOVE Pandemic already. I mentioned several things before, but it is consistently number 1 on the Dice Tower's people choice by a landslide. And people also love Legacy.
So yes, I think Agricola, with no reputation to build on, and no American release for almost a year taking roughly a year after its European release is not that different from Pandemic:Legacy, with everything that came before it, taking only 4 months.
However, Agricola also had nothing to build upon. Uwe was mostly unknown at that point, only having made Bohnanza so it was pretty much European hype that led to its immediate success here.
This is very different from P:L since people LOVE Pandemic already. I mentioned several things before, but it is consistently number 1 on the Dice Tower's people choice by a landslide. And people also love Legacy.
So yes, I think Agricola, with no reputation to build on, and no American release for almost a year taking roughly a year after its European release is not that different from Pandemic:Legacy, with everything that came before it, taking only 4 months.
So we are starting to gain common ground. Thats a positive start. The problem with your logic is its not completely flawed, it is just you can make that same kind of argument for later Uwe releases that never hit number one, even thought ehy were based on Agricola and had something to "build on". Same arguments could be made for reiner knizia, Krammer, etc. We could talk about other games with related titles and the fact that Pandemic never hit number one on BGG. So while I understand your logic and agree with it to some extent, one could easily use your logic to argue against your position too.
Arguing Pandemic was number one on other fans sites is irrelevant to the discussion about changes to BGG. I am sure you understand that I could just as easily pull out Barnes at Fortress Ameritrash response to Pandemic Legacy which is far more harsh than mine...heck why not: http://fortressat.com/articles-boardgame-reviews/5495-lipsti...
