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Reply: Cthulhu: Death May Die:: General:: Re: Is the Black Goat worth it's current market price?

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by bern1106

Poor Dick wrote:

GrandKhan44 wrote:

You are right that it makes half the Mythos deck, but I am not sure how much you have played - playing against Cthulhu or Hastur does not make a huge difference.

I've played the first two episodes with both Cthulhu and Hastur each - and there seems like a pretty big difference to me. MMV.

Edit:
In a vacuum, The Black Goat added to Season 1 & 2 would seem like 12 additional scenarios for a total of 36 combinations:
3 old ones * (6 Season One episodes + 6 Season Two episodes)

Granted, the overall proportional impact goes down as more old ones are added (from Season 3 & 4, and from the Kickstarter boxes), but it, like any old one, is going to be a +1 multiplier for total scenarios.



Dormammu wrote:


Most gamers seem unaware of the absolutely enormous gap between core game sales and expansion sales. No matter how well this game is doing, something like Black Goat is unlikely to sell 10% as many copies. It's a much riskier item to produce, so they are likely to be much more conservative about it. Seeing more at the time of Fear of the Unknown hitting retail seems most likely, and if it were never printed again I wouldn't be shocked.

I'm definitely aware of the gap between core and expansion sales - that's why expansions can remain on shelfs long after the base game base sold out... but (also) no one is buying expansions when the base game is not in stock.

If CMoN worked more like FFG, it would be less anxiety inducing. Stuff ends up being out of stock all the time due to smaller print runs - but it always eventually comes back into stock. CMoN is get it the first time or maybe never see it again.

That said, the bazillion add-on structure many CMoN games uses is only really good for Kickstarter/crowdfunding. It's a nightmare for retail (for not only the retailers, but also the publisher and the consumer), where having fewer SKUs and clear understanding of content is far more important. FFG doesn't even do that with their LCGs anymore, which have moved away from a more CCG analog packaging scheme for exactly that reason.

That said, the latest Kickstarter would have been the perfect time to skip having to worry about retail and supply issues and get a set demand count, and they didn't do that either.


bern1106 wrote:

Double down when you play Hastur, you have The Black Goat give or take. If it's having the physical mini on the table, I get that entirely, I'm nowhere near a completionist, but when it comes to minis, they have to be the right ones and painted. 76$ is three times the retail plus postage no doubt, if it's never reprinted that will, in all probability, continue to balloon (or balloon more so). Biggest problem with small production runs (which BG was) is it's usually late in the day when it's decided to re-print. When I bought it a couple of years ago I was totally surprised to see the English Version actually in stock at my FLGS and for the correct retail price. Admittedly they only had one copy, but thems the breaks.

Minis aren't the issue. It's more the cards and other components. Honestly, I find almost all of CMoN's mini-games over produced. I was actually considering swapping the minis for more the more reasonably sized for CDMD's board/tiles Arkham Horror chits (and vice versa as the various Arkham Horror Files game boards seem to have more space).

I don't mind small and/or irregular production runs, as long as they are "consistent" (generally ongoing, just be patient) - which CMoN is not. Many projects are one-and-done, and there's no good, clear method to finding out or anticipating what they will and won't ever reprint.


Well mate, you seem dissatisfied with just about everything being suggested. Final decision is yours, but for me it's a rip-off, but that's Ebay. I think you'll find that limited production runs are becoming the norm with prices of just about everything hitting the roof. Gaming (especially with minis) is being hit hard by the oil crisis and companies don't want dead stock in their warehouses. Only advice now is, next time, get on the boat before it sails. 🤷

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